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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:31 am
by arnab
zoheb wrote:i guess he is being kind & generous, and giving opportunities to others! :D
i agree he's in a different league altogether, he needs some challenge this year, otherwise it gets boring....

abacab: ferrari is fast, maybe he's the only driver who can handle the speed :wink:

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:19 pm
by abacab
Having a hard time remembering when he overtook someone last...

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:15 pm
by arnab
abacab wrote:Having a hard time remembering when he overtook someone last...
thats because he's always leading :D

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:22 pm
by GTI VR6
arnab wrote:
abacab wrote:Having a hard time remembering when he overtook someone last...
thats because he's always leading :D
i thought that's what abacab meant......or did you mean something else abacab.....

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:15 pm
by abacab
He was not always leading. Anytime he gained places was during pit stops, can't remember any straught out overtaking.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:18 am
by GTI VR6
abacab wrote:He was not always leading. Anytime he gained places was during pit stops, can't remember any straught out overtaking.
that's cuz he was leading from the start most of the time. all he had to do was maintain the lead...

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:26 am
by abacab
Well he did not win all the races from the poll if you want to match with the results, so you can;t claim he was leading all of them from the start.

And the fact that he gets pretty nervous was clearly shown in 2003 when Raikkonen needed to win and Schumacher get no more than 8th. He messed up qualifying, failed to do anything spectacular in the race, making a big mess out of the whole thing. Came in 8th, but lucky for him, Barichello went to win with Raikkonen 2nd.

And for all his great overtaking skills, you can just look at the last 2 races. In the first one Barichello came from pretty far back in the grid to 2nd. On the other side Schumacher took out Heidfield with him instead of doing one of his God-like things, which he never does anyway.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:35 am
by GTI VR6
hmmm.... i could only see about 4 F1 races last summer since I can't see it here in the US. but Schumacher was in one of the top 3 starting positions from what i can recall. there wasn't much to overtake.

i can see you dislike schumacher.....your choice. just so you know I've been supporting him since his days at Benetton Renault, in other words, since the arrival of satellite dishes in Bangladesh. he was able to pull pretty amazing wins since then even though hill, hakinnen, villneuve and all were at his tail all the time.

but hey if he ever retires.....i'll support alonso.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:22 am
by abacab
Speed TV shows F1 in US. Most cable companies provide it. Dish, you have to upgrade. My dorm or the hotel I was in last week did not have it, so I guess you've to look out. But most races are either 1:30AM or 8AM sunday morning. That's a bitch.

I've no problem accepting Schumacher is/was a great driver. But in recent years, its been more down to strategies (i.e. pit stop moves) than pure racing. Or even Barichello letting him pass for team orders. After wasting many Sunday mornings like this, I'm somewhat pissed at the whole thing. And if you just keep up with F1 news, you'll see how Ferrari tries to control FIA. Most recent was them signing a deal exclusively with Bernie Eccleston, and getting a veto power in all F1 rule changes. And the rest of the teams were trying to form a pact to get more money out of Bernie.

Overall the whole thing makes me pretty disgusted.

And Schumacher does lose coolness when under pressure. Even when he was starting for Ferrari (don't remember the year), I think it was Villenueve who he had to beat in the final race to be World champion. But he took him out of the races. Lost all the points for that year in championship.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:25 am
by GTI VR6
abacab wrote:Speed TV shows F1 in US. Most cable companies provide it. Dish, you have to upgrade. My dorm or the hotel I was in last week did not have it, so I guess you've to look out. But most races are either 1:30AM or 8AM sunday morning. That's a bitch.

I've no problem accepting Schumacher is/was a great driver. But in recent years, its been more down to strategies (i.e. pit stop moves) than pure racing. Or even Barichello letting him pass for team orders. After wasting many Sunday mornings like this, I'm somewhat pissed at the whole thing. And if you just keep up with F1 news, you'll see how Ferrari tries to control FIA. Most recent was them signing a deal exclusively with Bernie Eccleston, and getting a veto power in all F1 rule changes. And the rest of the teams were trying to form a pact to get more money out of Bernie.

Overall the whole thing makes me pretty disgusted.

And Schumacher does lose coolness when under pressure. Even when he was starting for Ferrari (don't remember the year), I think it was Villenueve who he had to beat in the final race to be World champion. But he took him out of the races. Lost all the points for that year in championship.
Don't have cable........not at home a lot........

about Ferrari winning more races due to better strategies.....i totally agree.

one more thing. maybe you can answer it. remember a few years ago in one of the Grand Prix races, Coulthard was trying to overtake Schumacher or vice versa and they messes up and one of the showes the finger to another. am i right or wrong?

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:40 am
by abacab
Yeah I remember it happening, probably Belgian or something.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:10 am
by sakib the spiky
zoheb wrote:i guess he is being kind & generous, and giving opportunities to others! :D
what… just like ManUts… after a long win gave a break for Gunners and Blues… :D

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:08 am
by arnab
is schumi retires i wouo support ld probablysupport nick heidfield/jenson. I wanted takuma but lets see.....

anyways from next year i will be supporting Dubai, as they would be launching its own f1 team.... :D

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:02 pm
by abacab
There is nothing called givin a break, no one wants to lose. I love seeing Ferguson's nose turning purple.

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:57 pm
by GTI VR6
abacab wrote:There is nothing called givin a break, no one wants to lose. I love seeing Ferguson's nose turning purple.
ahhhh.....my sworn enemy in this forum........anti-schumi and and anti-Man U...
nice to meet you :twisted: