Hummer H2

[Turjo]

Once again we are going back to economics. As I said a while ago the average income was somewhere from $300-$500 USD. And the Per capita is different. I am glad that you showed reference Chukey. Having said that, Bangladesh is not a communist country. And just because the average income is $300 a year does not mean every one makes that money. There are some making millions (legally or illegally) and there are others in poverty. Economics is not one of prerequisites for entering this site. Or at least I hope not.

[Turjo]

By the way, Tariq Zia was given as an example of a corrupt businessman to refer to what you were saying, "and borrowing money from the Banks..read the god damn news papers, do you have any idea how many people have defaulted on their loans". Tariq Zia is the son of the current prime minister Khaleda Zia. And He has taken several hundred million dollar loan from Bangladeshi banks to own factories in Malaysia. Investment that has not been paying back. An investment that is never going to come in any good of the Bangladeshi people. This investlment in the country could have created more jobs, brought in taxes and revenues and made whatever product produced, cheaper for the people. So yes there are lots of corrupt people. They ranked Bangladesh #1 in corruption even though I don't believe in that crap. But this site is an automotive site. Lets not go into how people afford these cars. That digs up an entirely different story.

[Turjo]

I think this site was meant to show the cars in the streets of Dhaka and MAYBE create a sense of national pride for those living in or out of the country. People in Canada and US have the concept of Bangladesh being one of the most poorest countries in the world. A concept I have a lot of trouble believing. Maybe the fact that I left Bangladesh at a young age didn't allow me to see all sides of Bangladesh. That does not mean I havnt seen the poor. But when I showed the Hummers and the Mercedes Benz photos to my friends, their immidiate reaction was, wooo Bangladesh has these cars? Are you sure thats Bangladesh? Hearing that gave me satisfaction and sense of national pride.
The very people responsible for the bad image of Bangladesh in the international community drives these cars in Bangladesh. Everytime a secretary or Minister goes abroad, instead of asking for assistance in industrializing the country or any specific fund such as increasing the literacy level. They give the sense that Bangladeshis are going to die within the next week if we dont get some aid now. I wonder what percent of this foreign tax payer's aid actually goes to Bangladesh. Hey maybe one day there will be a revolution and these thieves will be replaced with honest leaders and a constitution that allows no dishonesty. Untill then this is all we got. Enjoy the cars and for any misfortune of Bangladesh take comfort by blaming the politicians and remember ITS NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY.

[Chucky]

Why did I say all these things? Because some one had the audacity to say that it is allright to own these expensieve cars, when people are suffering, from the middle class, to the poor..

well enough about these things..I said what I needed to say, don't defend these people..

as far as the cars are concerned, why would any one want a left hand drive car in Bangladesh, They should have imported Porche Cayenes from UK, atleast those are right hand drives, and much faster, better..alittle pricy though....

[Monk]

It is a very odd how an H2 is cheaper in Bangladesh than it is in North America. If anyone could tell me how much cheaper it is that would be great. And does anyone know if there are any Chryslers in Bangladesh. And I don’t mean the older European Daimler products but the newer American Chryslers. And I would like your views on these cars if they were ever to come on Dhaka’s streets. And what are Bangladeshi consumers' views on American cars. Do the size have any appeal?

Diplomatic sales are exempted from imported duties,turjo...and when u export a brand new car from another country you have the option to reclaim the VAT on that car.. for example the street price for a brand new H2 in the US , say about 80G. when u import it to another country, u take off the VAT. im not sure whats the VAT on cars in the US is ... it varies from country to country, 15% in some places. so, if u take off 12G of 80G and pay 3G on freight, u end up spending 71'000 USD. however if these diplomatic cars ever get auctioned the subsequent private buyer would have to bear the import duties.But this is where it gets tricky...When a MP imports a car he/she has the option of keeping the car for him/herself or sell it off after his tenure is over.

As, for my views on american cars ... i was never really facinated by em... and as as the sheer size of american is concerned , it'll be bloody murder trying to navigate thru dhaka's streets in them. we've got ford operating here in bangladesh for some time now , but i've never considered the ford tauras/explorer to be a penis enhancer...if u know what i mean. in retrospective to reliability you'd be struggling to keep em running here, if u dont have a dealer to service them for u. i've got a benz and im already paying thu my nose keeping it in shape. i saw the the escalades a few months back and frankly speaking i wasn't impressed, looked like a cocked up version of the suburban. yea, the hummers were imposing but they are just not feasable to own....and i was wondering whether the guy who bought one those found out the same, saw an add on the paper a few weeks back, was up for sale.heh

[Turjo]

Thanks Monk for explaining to me what the Hummer deal really was. Its cool that they get it in Bangladesh for less than the price in US. But at the same time I feel that its unfair that the politicians get these advantages. But guess it happens in lotta counties, as I have seen Canadian politicians driving European cars like the Maybach instead of North American vehicles.

And thank you for your opinion on the American cars in Bangladesh. Ford is just plain horrible no matter where it is. Fix Or Repair Daily, thats FORD. Our first car in Canada was a Mercury Topaz which is part of Ford. Within one year we spent more money on fixing it than its actual price. Eventhough it is worth nothing anymore it still sits on one corner of our driveway since it has a lot of emotional values. But I heard Chrysler was trying to do business in Asia. Now that could mean looking for suitable manufacturing location or actually establishing dealerships. If it is manufacturing, India will surely win that. But then it will be easier to open dealerships in surrounding countries. I was thinking since there are Mercedes dealerships in Bangladesh and Benz is a part of the Daimler Chrysler then opening a Chrysler dealership wouldn't be bad for business. From my estimate it'll bring in brand new luxury cars like Intrepid and Concord for the price of a brand new Camry. And in North America these cars are very popular. Having owned two Intrepids I can also add that they are very reliable.

[guest]

First of all Hummer don't cost 80gs in US, i don't know where people get this kind of figures. And tax in US is only 7% and FYI none of the US car dealer sell a car to the outside of the us residents. US residents have to buy this baby in order to ship them to abroard. And Hummer is cheaper in Bangladesh than in US market wow, tell me how much it is and i'll buy one. The Hummer Lux is around 53gs in US market and yes foreign diplomat have to pay the tax. So friends don't argue about who can buy this baby and who can't if you have money to afford this baby in the street of Dhaka go ahead and have fun driving them. I think GOVT should cut the taxes on import vehicles, my question is where this tax money goes to? Man if we charge that much on taxes we should be investing on car manufacturing. No other country in the world charge that much on taxes unless the country makes it own brand of vehicles, and try to restrict citizen to buy the imports. So i think it rediculous to pay all those high taxes.

[Monk]

First of all Hummer don't cost 80gs in US, i don't know where people get this kind of figures. And tax in US is only 7% and FYI none of the US car dealer sell a car to the outside of the us residents. US residents have to buy this baby in order to ship them to abroard. And Hummer is cheaper in Bangladesh than in US market wow, tell me how much it is and i'll buy one. The Hummer Lux is around 53gs in US market and yes foreign diplomat have to pay the tax. So friends don't argue about who can buy this baby and who can't if you have money to afford this baby in the street of Dhaka go ahead and have fun driving them. I think GOVT should cut the taxes on import vehicles, my question is where this tax money goes to? Man if we charge that much on taxes we should be investing on car manufacturing. No other country in the world charge that much on taxes unless the country makes it own brand of vehicles, and try to restrict citizen to buy the imports. So i think it rediculous to pay all those high taxes.

First off, Try to bring in a name if you’re going to run your mouth. Secondly, please read the thread properly;I wasn’t stating facts on the price; it was an assumption for that example. Thirdly, FYI when an out of state person buys a brand new car and export it regardless if its thru dealer or himself, can claim the TAX from the port of departure; And this is not applicable to cars only, it applies from your IPOD to your mom’s new dinner wagon. Certain car manufacturers have reservations against exporting into other countries, but they still and since I’ve done it with my own, the only thing u run against is the cancellation of warranty. The whole issue regarding hummer was a base for explanation as to how people here can sustain such high import costs. Third, foreign diplomats pay TAX at country of origin, read what I said “IMPORT DUTIES”. In your case 7% in the US and would not have to incur 150% Customs Duty here in Bangladesh. MP's are allowed 1 car under 1300cc or an SUV, TAX waived. And they dont have to even pay that 7% since it could be a private export and cleared by an MP using his waiver.

[Monk]

Turjo, variety is the spice of life. But growing up in the UK I was never properly introduced to American cars, hence, my skepticism about anything American. I’m sure some of the other members here would love to disagree. I like the front grill of the Concorde and it’s easy to see where AUDI got their inspiration for the new A6. But the sheer magnitude of those cars would deter people from owning them here. Now, Chrysler has certain cars in the UK catering to the European customers only. i.e PT cruiser, crossfire,300 and the Pacifica. The 300 and the Pacifica will be coming to the UK this year and I really like those two cars. Not forgetting to mention, that the Pacifica would use a lot of components from the Mercedes parts bin, making it virtually bombproof. And it’ll be a pleasant change to see these in Dhaka if they come.
As to bringing dealership in, well I suppose it would be far easier now than it would have been a few years back. Since, some of the big leagues are already in here, I’m sure other manufactures wouldn’t hesitate to compete. However, I don’t know how much the Intrepid or the Concorde costs; a brand new Honda Accord Nissan Cefiro is around 22/25 lacs depending on options. Someone told me the either the Camry or the Mark II is being asked 30 lacs new, I’m not sure whether that figure is correct, maybe someone will clarify. Most people who fall short of a Benz or a BMW usually buy grey imports of Japanese make. Only stable establishments acquire these things new in large, and even that is due to the fact their proven record of rock solid reliability against road abuse here.

plus please follow up on the GENERAL DISCUSSION thread under latest news.

[ChUcKy]

Many people have inhibitions about american cars, I don't know why..even though they are gas guzzlers, and tend to break down a lot..
I am 23 years old, and I maintain 2 cars, I live in Boston Massachusetts, USA, one of them is a 1997 Saab convertible 900se turbo, and the other, a 2003 toyota highlander, frankly, so far the toyota hasn't given me any problems..but the saab is another matter, for some reason european cars are so expensive to maintain, the power seats got screwed up, the center consol got screwed up, took me a while to fix it, even my cousin and his BMW had problems..thats why i guess most asians go for Toyotas and hondas..

I personally love american cars, there is somethingg about them, the ford Mustangs, the camaros, corvettes, firebirds, trans ams, sports cars which normal regular people can reach, compared to ferraris or Porches..

Bangladesh needs highlanders, Land cruisers, etc etc..big expensieve american cars will never do...

[Sexy eyeS]

I recently heard PAKISTAN is making licensed copies of military version Hummers.

Bangladesh military should think about manufacturing Hummers locally but the main problems I identify regarding Hummers is that they wont fit on normal Bangladeshi roads plus they are fuel/gas guzzlers as we all know.

The advantages in Military service are unquestionable though because they can negotiate almost all sorts of terrains considering that they could be applied in area's of Bangladesh such as the CHT, Northern areas and other unaccessable places throughout the country.

[Turjo]

This is what I don't understand, If you are going to go through the trouble of building it , why wouldn't you just design something that best fits your country's terrain. I agree with Sexy eyeS that Bangladesh should think about manufacturing their own military vehicle, from my opinion it does not have to be a hummer, but something more economic for the army that is useful on the terrain we have, something armored that can provide the nececssary protection to our soldiers and most of all DESIGNED IN BANGLADESH. I am a patriot. I love my country as most of you do. And I think if we can make it, we can design it. By the way Sexy eyeS, are you Ashiq from the Bangladesh Military Forum, because if you are, I love your website. Keep up the good work.

[Sexy eyeS]

Thanks Turjo, I'm Ashiq from [ http://bmf-forum.co.nr ].

Actually I recently saw a picture of a Bangladeshi manufactured armoured personnel carrier (they are like troop transport vehicles that can move troops in and out of battlefield quickly while protecting them).

I will try and post a picture here but I'm afraid the website I got the photos and info from shutdown or is under repair.

Anyway whatever it is, its a good step for Bangladesh. (It looks like some kind of riot control vehicle to me).

[rawfin]

:lol: yeah...somebody shud post a letter to the prime minister to give permission of manufacturing these vehicles in bd...all the ppl of this site,lets get together and go to her office... jus joking...
hehe...