Hummer H2

Post by **rezwan** » Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:08 pm

Has anyone else seen the silver hummer H2 in Dhaka?

Ctguy · Post by **Ctguy** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:30 am

Wish to see it soon.............

hummerer · Post by **hummerer** » Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:20 am

the hummer was at the Auto Fair.. check the photo gallery for Hummer H2 pics from dhaka..

chucky · Post by **chucky** » Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:54 am

just curious, but where do people get the money to afford all these cars? 150% tax, and yet there are bmws, Hummers, Porches, amg Mercs, and 98% of the population is dwindling..barely surviving..

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:09 am

My message to Chuckey, Yes the taxes are at 150% for vehicles with engine capacity of 2700cc or higher. That information is accurate. But who told you that 98% of the population of Bangladesh is dwindling. That comment seriously irritates me. 23% of Bangladesh's population is under the poverty level. But believe it or not 12% of the American population is under the poverty level. 12% of the 290 million Americans is actually greater than the 22% of the 140 million Bangladeshis. Therefore if Americans can have these luxury SUVs Bangladesh can too. Stop being negative. Bangladesh is developoing its not dwindling. Due to our political situation we are not developing fast enough, but none the less we are developing.

Turjo · Post by **Turjo** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:55 am

First of all the comment made by chuckey, that 98% of Bangladeshi population is dwindling is wrong. Having said that I acknowledge Bangladesh has a lot of people below the poverty line, and due to the size of our country and the population density in the major cities it seems worse than it really is.
There are lots of succesfull entrepreneurs, high ranking employees of large corporations as well as foreign corporations and some expatriates returning from abroad, who can afford to purchase these expensive luxury cars and SUVs. There are also corrupt politicians and public servents who successfully do everything except serve the people. These corrupt folks can also afford to buy these American and European luxury vehicles. Other than these luxury cars there are a lot of brand new cars being imported these days. They are becoming more affordable since reconditioned car import has decresed and banks are giving loans. These conditions are making new cars more accessible to the upper middle class Bangladeshi families. The older reconditioned vehicles will now sell for much cheaper, making it affordable for middle class Bangladeshis. In Bangladesh we have a lot of skilled people for whom manufacturing vehicles after a little training is not impossible. But our corrupt politicians are being bribed by foreign manufacturers to stand in their way. If India can manufature automobiles then there are no reasons why Bangladesh can't. There population under poverty level is more than the entire population of Bangladesh. Manufacturing automobiles in Bangladesh would create more jobs, bring in more taxes, make automobiles affordable for a lot of Bangladeshis, ensure revenue by exporting, decrease military expenditure by making the vehicles for the army at home. If Bangladeshis elect proper politicians then maybe one day we will make our own civil and military vehicles and wont have to pay crores for hummers.

ChUcKy · Post by **ChUcKy** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:32 pm

Are you realy serious? Bangladesh Does not constitute Dhaka, if you look around, you will see that the other parts of Bangladesh doesn't have these cars and so many rich people..Please, your argument that if USA can have expensieve cars, why can't Bangladesh? I would love it if you ask ANY common person on the road in Dhaka where these people get the money for their cars, and you willl get one answer over and over again.. Churir taka, Smuggling. How many of these rich people do you actually think pay their income taxes? hahaha..23% of 140 million people are under the poverty level? are you serious? hahaha.. is that what the current government is providing these days..sheesh.. have you ever lived in Sylhet, Chuadanga, Brahmonbaria? I have.. just like Turjo said..its all corruption, the money comes from Corruption....oh and borrowing money from the Banks..read the god damn news papers, do you have any idea how many people have defaulted on their loans.. ohh please..wake up..and really look around you..

Chucky · Post by **Chucky** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:47 pm

Ohh..and for your information, the average income in Bangladesh, PER YEAR, is $365 only.. thats right.. you don't believe me? Go to the cabinet Ministry, ask the Joint secretary, additional secretary, they will tell you the exact figure.. yes..so in a country, where the average income is $365 PER YEAR..does it suit any one to buy such expensieve cars, Again, my question to you..where is the money coming from?

ChuCky · Post by **ChuCky** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 2:51 pm

And the population of america is not 240 million, its more than 345million, and please find out what is their average income PER year..don't compare Bangladesh to America..

Post by **Monk** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:42 pm

chucky, im not gonna get defensive nor am i going to argue with you regarding the methods people here, go about owning these posh cars. i do admit that half the people who own some of these cars u see here, have unscrupulous living earnings. Last time i checked with mercedes-benz dhaka they had 300 clients of which they sold 60 new cars to, and among these 60, 48 went to the government and other large instituitions, and 12 were private buyers. And as for these 12 cars probably more by now, u should know that there are income earners on both side of a spectrum.

Regarding the issues on tax, its not 150% its far more for a 2700cc above. 150% is the customs duty on which u add Subsidiary and Vat ....which, if i can recall correctly will sum up at 190% or 210% total tax levied.However, there are loads of legal loopholes as to how u can bring these cars in without ever paying such exorbitant amounts on duties. i really dont want to generalise as to how they are done, but in some cases u can knock the tax off as much as 70% of the total.

As for the hummer...there are 3 in town not 1...an H1 , two H2's and a pair of escalades as well... these are all 6000cc+ SUV's only MP's can bring them in; private buyers would need special permission to bring in these exotics ....i dont who owns the h2's but if they bought these cars in through a minister then the duty would have been waived...and u'd endup paying the freight + export value (street value in the US - VAT). so, basically u pay less for the h2 here than u end up buying one in the US.

anyways
cheers

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:56 am

Message to Chuckey, Verify your info. pls. Bangladesh's actual population under the poverty level is 28%, and the US population is 290 million. This info is taken from what I consider to be the most reliable source. CIA Factbook. www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook . Check it out if you want. Bangladeshis average per capita income is $1700. Thats if you devide the GDP,$238.2 billion by the population of 140 million. Oviously that does not mean every Bangladeshi family has that money. If you think that information is wrong look at the amount of rent some families pay and check out the cia factbook. Because I believe they know more about Bangladesh then some Bangladeshi politicians do. And there are no doubt in my mind that some of the people who can afford these cars are corrupt and stealing the people's money. But that does not mean all the people who own these cars are corrupt and thieves. There are businessmen unlike Tareq Zia who are honest and successful. In Bangladesh it might be hard to put those two words together but there has been the emmerge of 3700 small businesses in Bangladesh over the past 3 years and you can't call all of them dishonest.

Chucky · Post by **Chucky** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:10 am

You guys are abolutely right, I should not calling every one dishonest, but as Monk just said, most of these people end up NOT paying any of the taxes, the MPs and ministers import the cars, and probaby sell em off to their rich friends..

Dude..that is Ludicrous, per capita income for Bangladeshis as $1700..since when was american information ever correct, I suggest you ask the Government officials about the Per capita income in Bangladesh, they will tell you the real income..You have named me 1 person who is honest (i don't personally know Tariq Zia), I had no idea that there were H1s in Dhaka, or a pair of Escalades..so isn't it stilll cheating the system if these cars were brought into the country by ministers, and then sold off to friends, or how on earth can Ministers even afford to purchase these cars? you tell me..my outcry into this whole matter was because of the original post, for defending some of these people..thats why I have outlashed my views.. DO NOT defend all these people who bring cars that are so expensieve, out of 10, maybe 1 is honest, but the rest cannot be, with the current situation of Bangladesh, no one can become so rich so easily and so quickly.... I have said it before, ask ANY common person on the road as to where these people get their money, and they will say churir taka...

Turjo · Post by **Turjo** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:31 am

Per capita and income are, not the same thing. Per capita is the GDP divided by the population. And it is somewhere around $1700USD. But that does not mean, in average people of Bangladesh earn $1700. Unfortunately it is somewhere around $300-$500. And again that does not mean all families are making that much a year. Infact there are some making millions (legally or illegally) and there are others in poverty. But this is an automotive website. Let’s have a new topic on affordability of vehicles in Bangladesh.

ChUcky · Post by **ChUcky** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:34 am

GDP This entry gives the gross domestic product (GDP) or value of all final goods and services produced within a nation in a given year. GDP dollar estimates in the Factbook are derived from purchasing power parity (PPP) calculations. IE..THATS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF GOODS AND SERVICES PRODUCED IN A COUNTRY IN A YEAR, that is not the total income for a country, the total income for a country's population is called GNI..or gross National income, and the average income per person per year for Bangladesh is only $360, you don't believe me?

http://www.worldbank.org/data/databytopic/GNIPC.pdf << look at the file, page 3, left column, country number 174.. leanr your economics first, learn what the terms really mean..

so if the average person makes ONLY $360 per year, where do all these people get the money to guy their expensieve cars from?

Turjo · Post by **Turjo** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:43 am

It is a very odd how an H2 is cheaper in Bangladesh than it is in North America. If anyone could tell me how much cheaper it is that would be great. And does anyone know if there are any Chryslers in Bangladesh. And I don’t mean the older European Daimler products but the newer American Chryslers. And I would like your views on these cars if they were ever to come on Dhaka’s streets. And what are Bangladeshi consumers' views on American cars. Do the size have any appeal?

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